Tristar Viper G2 410 choke & pattern

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Rottford
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Re: Tristar Viper G2 410 choke & pattern

Postby Rottford » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:11 pm

It gives me the perfect pattern for swamp hunting wood ducks :D



Dave in AZ
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Re: Tristar Viper G2 410 choke & pattern

Postby Dave in AZ » Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:15 pm

That is a gpod looking 410 pattern. I've been looking at that 410viper g2, there are 16 of them at my local cabelas.



Rottford
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Re: Tristar Viper G2 410 choke & pattern

Postby Rottford » Fri Feb 05, 2021 4:19 pm

I have both the 20 & 410 gauge in camo that I hunt with using TSS. I tend to shoot better with the 20 gauge over decoys, but better with the 410 in the swamps where it's more of a "snap shot". Shooting the lighter 410 does take some getting used to ;) Also, it can be a bit painfull on freezing mornings trying to load shells in the narrow magazine with my fat fingers :lol:



DagSwane
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Re: Tristar Viper G2 410 choke & pattern

Postby DagSwane » Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:50 am

Rottford wrote:I have both the 20 & 410 gauge in camo that I hunt with using TSS. I tend to shoot better with the 20 gauge over decoys, but better with the 410 in the swamps where it's more of a "snap shot". Shooting the lighter 410 does take some getting used to ;) Also, it can be a bit painfull on freezing mornings trying to load shells in the narrow magazine with my fat fingers :lol:


Have you experienced any feeding or cycling issues with your .410, factory, TSS rolled, or crimped reloads? I am also looking at picking up one, but have read about issues with that gun and certain ammo not feeding/cycling reliably. For now, I shoot OU’s in .410, but I am looking to pick up some pumps and semi-autos.

Thanks
-Doug



Rottford
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Re: Tristar Viper G2 410 choke & pattern

Postby Rottford » Wed Apr 14, 2021 3:18 pm

I've not had any feeding/cycling issues with my roll crimped 3" 410 loads in the Viper G2 ;)

I will point out that I had to shorten the magazine plug about 1/4" to get two 3" shells to fit comfortably.



DagSwane
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Re: Tristar Viper G2 410 choke & pattern

Postby DagSwane » Sat Apr 24, 2021 5:12 pm

Rottford wrote:I've not had any feeding/cycling issues with my roll crimped 3" 410 loads in the Viper G2 ;)

I will point out that I had to shorten the magazine plug about 1/4" to get two 3" shells to fit comfortably.


I picked up the Tristar Semi auto in .410 and 28. I’m still waiting on the 28gauge to be delivered. I shot only a few 3” .410 rounds at the sporting clays course the other day. They all cycled well and the gun launched the empty Hulls with authority. I’ve been trying out some different options to smooth over and round off even more so, fold crimp .410 reloads. I measure them with calipers as well. When the weather is a bit better, I’ll try some of my reloads through it. I also was able to pick up some extended tubes from Midway, Carlson Cylinder and Mod. I have Comp N Choke extended in IC and Mod for the .410 OU.



pillowtn
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Re: Tristar Viper G2 410 choke & pattern

Postby pillowtn » Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:27 am

DagSwane wrote:
Rottford wrote:I have both the 20 & 410 gauge in camo that I hunt with using TSS. I tend to shoot better with the 20 gauge over decoys, but better with the 410 in the swamps where it's more of a "snap shot". Shooting the lighter 410 does take some getting used to ;) Also, it can be a bit painfull on freezing mornings trying to load shells in the narrow magazine with my fat fingers :lol:


Have you experienced any feeding or cycling issues with your .410, factory, TSS rolled, or crimped reloads? I am also looking at picking up one, but have read about issues with that gun and certain ammo not feeding/cycling reliably. For now, I shoot OU’s in .410, but I am looking to pick up some pumps and semi-autos.

Thanks
-Doug


Doug I have experienced cycling issues for rolled 3" but not 2.5. I can't figure out what the problem is. If you have any input I'm open.



hawglips
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Re: Tristar Viper G2 410 choke & pattern

Postby hawglips » Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:54 am

Rolled shells end up longer than fold crimped, and some guns don't tolerate the extra length with cycling. Trimming the hulls a bit before loading can solve it.



bullet225ho
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Re: Tristar Viper G2 410 choke & pattern

Postby bullet225ho » Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:45 pm

Folks,

I had real bad feeding issues with folded 3" euro shells out of my G2. Rolled where a bit better on the euro hulls but still not acceptable. I bought a flat of AA-HS 3" 8.5 lead. Shot some up patterning for doves and then clays. Loaded those hulls up on the 4/8tss, 1/8 steel duplex and have not had a hickup since. Two seasons in the swamps and also in Texas...from 70degrees down to 16 degrees. Smashes ducks. I actually shoot the 410 better than the 28 over decoys.

With that being said....I think the issue with the ribbed euro hulls is the taper on the end for the 3" hulls. I would bet that a nicely crimped hull that was run through a GAEP finisher would run just fine. I don't have one and the AA-HS work so I haven't tried.

Also I'll mention that you really have to look at the length of 3" hulls. Some are much longer than others and some are just way shorter than 3". I have a bunch of Rio 3" hulls that are more like 2 3/4" won't work in a MEC unless you do major press adjustments. They would work fine if you rolled them. I'd say if you were dead set on shooting new Cheddite or Fiocchi primed hulls you'll need to experiment with your machine and get it set precisely for one load and don't ever touch it again. Or, go the fold and GAEP finishing crimp route.



bullet225ho
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Re: Tristar Viper G2 410 choke & pattern

Postby bullet225ho » Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:51 pm

Folks,

I had real bad feeding issues with folded 3" euro shells out of my G2. Rolled where a bit better on the euro hulls but still not acceptable. I bought a flat of AA-HS 3" 8.5 lead. Shot some up patterning for doves and then clays. Loaded those hulls up on the 4/8tss, 1/8 steel duplex and have not had a hickup since. Two seasons in the swamps and also in Texas...from 70degrees down to 16 degrees. Smashes ducks. I actually shoot the 410 better than the 28 over decoys.

With that being said....I think the issue with the ribbed euro hulls is the taper on the end for the 3" hulls. I would bet that a nicely crimped hull that was run through a GAEP finisher would run just fine. I don't have one and the AA-HS work so I haven't tried.

Also I'll mention that you really have to look at the length of 3" hulls. Some are much longer than others and some are just way shorter than 3". I have a bunch of Rio 3" hulls that are more like 2 3/4" won't work in a MEC unless you do major press adjustments. They would work fine if you rolled them. I'd say if you were dead set on shooting new Cheddite or Fiocchi primed hulls you'll need to experiment with your machine and get it set precisely for one load and don't ever touch it again. Or, go the fold and GAEP finishing crimp route.




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