It's going to be a few months before I can do anything, so this is just bench racing, for me, for now.
But, sooner or later, I'm going to have to try some TSS loads on coyote. Maybe a brief introductory note is in order here - that's all I use a shotgun for, at this point, is coyote. Plan is to get a Benelli M2 within the next couple of months, then start in heavy with patterning and load testing. And at some point, seeing what can be done to push the envelope of coyote shotgunning using TSS.
Primary objective is Dead Right There performance, under a given set of conditions. A well centered pattern within a given distance equals a coyote that drops on the spot and doesn't get back up again.
My current go-to loads are (3" 12 gauge) 1-1/2 oz. of Hevi shot BB w/TEF choke and a 1-3/4 oz. load of nickel plated lead F w/Dead Coyote choke (870 Express). The HS BB is great for 45 yards and under, nicely sized dense pattern and "pretty good" penetration, but lacks a little punch for coyotes at 45+ and especially coyotes going away and offering their retreating hind end at 45+. The NP F definitely penetrates and breaks down those longer and going away coyote better, but at the expense of pattern size and ease of hits on closer shots. In a nutshell, the HS BB is easier to hit them with but the NP F kills better at the margins.
When I get to experimenting with TSS it will be with an eye towards improving performance over the above.
From a purely theoretical standpoint - not grounded in extensive actual experience - so please feel free to point out the errors in my thinking, but "what I'm thinking" is:
- Two separate applications (with overlap being major bonus)
- Increased lethality and one shot DRT ratio at "normal" range (under 50 yards) via increased pellet count and penetration
- Increased range (>50 yards) via pattern density and penetration, a bona fide 60 yard DRT performer would be a home run
The Holy Grail would be one load that covers both bases, with one choke. Wide enough at 30 yards to keep hits on runners in the brush easy, but with enough pattern density and penetration to be a bona-fide one shot killer at 50 yards and a bit further.
I'm not looking for the Holy Grail though... Be perfectly fine with two different loads and chokes. One for the tight cover and another for setups with longish shot potential.
So... This is just bench racing, at this point, rolling ideas around. But I'll be acting upon it within the next few months.
I'm thinking a 1-1/2 oz. load of TSS #4's ought to cover the increased lethality at normal range via larger pellet count. Cover it very nicely. About 124 pellets and KPY predicted gel penetration about equal to HS Dead Coyote (which has only 51 pellets in the 3" load). Sounds lovely and I can't wait to try some! Anyone care to hazard any input on which choke you'd suggest for that (for the soon to be M2)? I plan on ordering a few pounds of the #4's to play with for sure.
For extended range, without totally turning the shotgun int a rifle at closer range, I'm liking the looks of TSS #2 on paper. Indeed, according to KPY the pellet count of 1-1/2 oz. of #2's is 80, but with over 50% more 3.7" gel penetration than Dead Coyote (80 yds vs 126 yds). Enough pellet count to get a reasonable swarm of death for normal ranges, but big enough, round enough, hard and heavy enough shot that perhaps there is a chance for having a dozen pellets still consistently hitting a 10" circle at 50 yards without choking the crap out of it at shorter distance. Maybe go ahead and do choke the crap out of it and have a semblance of a pattern at 60 yards? That sounds like the ticket! But, if I'm reading the tea leaves here correctly, Hal doesn't stock #2's? Looks like it goes from #4's up to #1's?
The #1's, with only 67 pellets in a 1-1/2 oz payload (per KPY) don't look near as sexy on paper. The aren't gaining me anything needed or meaningful in penetration vs. the #2's (either will penetrate beyond any hope of maintaining a pattern), they are only costing me pellet count (vs #2's). But, if I can't get #2's, then... I'm perhaps looking at a heavier payload of #1's, for the sake of pellet count. It would take an extra expensive 1-3/4 oz. payload to almost equal the pellet count of a 1-1/2 oz payload of #2's.
So, anyway... Like I said, bench racing, thinking out loud, rolling ideas around. Hoping for someone to poke some holes, point out some new information, whatever - bring it.
A couple of questions for now though:
- Am I correct, it's #4's then #1's? Or, can I actually get #2 TSS? On paper (KPY) the #2's really do look like the sweet spot for heavy coyote.
- What's the basic universe of payloads for 12 gauge in this range? Mr. Hawglips? I'll be ordering my shot from you, when the time comes. What kind of data will I have to work with for 3" 12 gauge, 1-1/2 oz? Or, actually, I guess 1-1/2 oz loads of TSS might actually be 2-3/4? But, if I can't get #2's, and decide I'm willing to take the wallet and shoulder punishment of a 1-3/4 oz load for the #1's, do you have data for that?
- Choke suggestions for all the above?
Thanks! Half the fun of this stuff is working it out ahead of time

- DAA